Notes and Queries, Number 72, March 15, 1851

and Queries, Number 72, March
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Title: Notes and Queries, Number 72, March 15, 1851 A Medium of
Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists, Antiquaries,
Genealogists, etc.
Author: Various
Editor: George Bell
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NOTES AND QUERIES:
A MEDIUM OF INTER-COMMUNICATION FOR LITERARY MEN,
ARTISTS, ANTIQUARIES, GENEALOGISTS, ETC.
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"When found, make a note of."--CAPTAIN CUTTLE.
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No. 72.] SATURDAY, MARCH 15. 1851. [Price Threepence. Stamped
Edition 4d.
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CONTENTS.
NOTES:-- Page Illustrations of Chaucer 201 Inedited Poetry, No. II.,
by K. R. H. Mackenzie 203 On a Passage in Marmion 203
Gloucestershire Provincialisms, by Albert Way 204 The Chapel of
Loretto 205 Folk Lore:--"Nettle in Dock out"--Soul separates from the
Body--Lady's Trees--Norfolk Folk Lore Rhymes 205 Minor
Notes:--Note for the Topographers of Ancient London, and for the
Monasticon--Gray and Burns-- Traditional Notice of Richard
III.--Oliver Cromwell-- Snail-eating 206
QUERIES:-- Biddings in Wales 207 Minor Queries:--Lord of
Relton--Beatrix de Bradney-- "Letters on the British Museum"--Ballad
Editing: The "Outlandish Knight"--Latin Epigram on the Duchess of
Eboli--Engraved Portrait-- Blackstone's Commentaries and Table of
Precedence-- The Two Drs. Abercromby--Witte van Haemstede--J.
Bruckner: Dutch Church in Norwich 208
MINOR QUERIES ANSWERED:--The Hereditary Earl Marshal--The

Beggar's Petition--"Tiring-irons never to be untied" 209
REPLIES:-- The Meaning of Eisell, by H. K. S. Causton 210 Replies to
Minor Queries:--William Chilcott--Fossil Elk of Ireland--Canes
Lesos--"By Hook or by Crook"--Suem--Sir George Downing--Miching
Malicho--Cor Linguæ--Under the Rose--"Impatient to speak, and not
see"--Bishop Frampton--Old Tract on the Eucharist--Was Hugh Peters
ever on the Stage? 212
MISCELLANEOUS:-- Notes on Books, Sales, Catalogues, &c. 214
Books and Odd Volumes wanted 215 Notices to Correspondents 215
Advertisements 215
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Notes.
ILLUSTRATIONS OF CHAUCER.
(Vol. iii., pp. 131. 133.)
I am glad to perceive that some of the correspondents of "NOTES AND
QUERIES" are turning their attention to the elucidation of Chaucer.
The text of our father-poet, having remained as it were in fallow since
the time of Tyrwhitt, now presents a rich field for industry; and, in
offering free port and entry to all comments and suggestions, to be
there sifted and garnered up, the pages of "NOTES AND QUERIES"
may soon become a depository from which ample materials may be
obtained for a new edition of Chaucer, now become an acknowledged
desideratum.
One excellent illustration has lately been added, at page 133., in a note
without signature upon "Nettle in, dock out." If confirmed[1], it will
furnish not only a most satisfactory explanation of that hitherto
incomprehensible phrase, but also a curious example of the faithful
preservation of an exact form of words through centuries of oral
tradition.

And if the note which precedes it, at page 131., upon a passage in
Palamon and Arcite, is less valuable, it is because it is deficient in one
of the most essential conditions which such communications ought to
possess--that of originality. No suggestion ought to be offered which
had been previously published in connexion with the same subject: at
least in any very obvious place of reference, such as notes or glossaries
already appended to well-known editions of the text.
Now the precise explanation of the planetary distribution of the
twenty-four hours of the day, given by [Greek: e]. in the first portion of
his communication, was anticipated seventy or eighty years ago by
Tyrwhitt in his note upon the same passage of Palamon and Arcite.
And with respect to [Greek: e].'s second explanation of the meaning of
"houre inequal," that expression also has been commented upon by
Tyrwhitt, who attributes it to the well-known expansive duration of
ancient hours, the length of which was regulated by that of the natural
day at the several seasons of the year: hence an inequality always
existed; except at the equinoxes, between hours before, and hours after,
sunrise. This is undoubtedly the true explanation, since Chaucer was, at
the time, referring to hours before and after sunrise upon the same day.
On the contrary, [Greek: e].'s ecliptic hours, if they ever existed at all
(he has cited no authority), would be obviously incompatible with the
planetary disposition of the hours